Relationship Therapist Explains What to Learn From Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift: “We Got Used to Seeing Men Bashing Women”

Taylor Swift’s appearance on Travis Kelce’s podcast has seemingly taken the couple to new heights, pun intended, and fans are here for it. The viral episode on the New Heights podcast is the first instance in which the two of them have had any form of extended interaction with each other in public.

Before that, the power couple had done their best to keep their relationship away from public gaze. For the first time, fans were able to finally see what a conversation between the two looks like. And, according to the acclaimed relationship guru and psychotherapist, Esther Perel, it was a “delightful” sight.

The New York Times best-selling author took to social media to break down what exactly made Travis and Swift’s interaction so captivating. Their initial reaction to Swift debuting the artwork and title of her upcoming project, The Life of a Showgirl, was more than telling.

“To see both of them glow at the success of her upcoming record… Why is this so surprising? It’s because we’ve gotten so used to seeing men bashing women, women bashing men, everybody just finding all of the shortcomings that exist on the other side,” said Perel.

Perel found the interaction “refreshing“. It was also “nice, healthy, and normal” to see both Kelce brothers share such a positive and supportive reaction to Swift’s announcement, she added. The moment proved to be a wholesome experience for both fans and Perel alike. “It feels good,” she exclaimed. “And we can all learn from it.”

And Swift has every intention of returning the favor. The pop music sensation has confirmed that she will, in fact, be in attendance for the Kansas City Chiefs’ Week 1 matchup against the Los Angeles Chargers, which is set to take place in São Paulo, Brazil, on September 5.

The contest will mark the start of Travis’ 13th season in the league, where he will hope to redeem himself after a pair of lackluster outings in the AFC Championship and at Super Bowl LIX. Many had feared that the future first-ballot Hall of Famer would be hanging up his cleats after his team endured what was one of the most lopsided losses in Super Bowl history.

However, Travis seems to be as spry as ever following his most recent performance in the Chiefs’ final game of the preseason. He was able to haul in a pair of passes from Patrick Mahomes for a total of 32 receiving yards, proving he’s as determined as ever to help his team reach its eighth consecutive conference championship.